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标题: [转贴] 苹果地图更多问题曝光:部分城市数据缺失 [打印本页]

作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-20 22:28     标题: 苹果地图更多问题曝光:部分城市数据缺失

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 12:02 编辑

苹果iOS 6中的自主地图服务一上线就备受批评。全球各地用户发现,该服务中的地图数据存在许多错误。

  苹果地图的问题包括识别城市错误,使用不正确的图标,甚至无法显示某些位置。其中很大一部分错误发生在欧洲。

  例如,爱尔兰司法部长阿兰·沙特尔(Alan Shatter)要求苹果移除在Airfield House标注的机场图标,因为这里并不是机场,而是一处农庄。沙特尔担心,如果飞行员依靠苹果地图来查找机场,那么可能会错误地降落在一块养牛场和养猪场中。

  通常情况下,飞行员会使用更强大的导航系统,而不是iPhone中的苹果地图。不过这样的担心也是合理的,尤其是在飞行员遭遇设备故障,需要紧急降落时。

  根据BBC的报道,在苹果地图应用中,英国的多个地点无法显示。例如,莎士比亚故乡斯特拉福德镇(Stratford-upon-avon)和索利赫尔镇(Solihull)都无法在苹果地图中找到,而东苏塞克斯地区的乌克菲德镇(Uckfield)则出现在了错误的位置。一些学校没有被包括在地图中,一家家具博物馆则出现在河里。而许多地区的卫星照片都被云层遮挡。

  亚洲各国用户也报告了问题。一些用户指出,许多地区的地图信息过于粗略,同时也没有标出一些火车站的出口。对于中日之间正发生纠纷的钓鱼岛,标注则包括了“尖阁列岛”和“钓鱼岛”两个版本。

  《赫芬顿邮报》等网站已经创建了苹果地图的错误信息列表,并列出了一些最有趣的错误。苹果地图应用由苹果开发,但地图数据并不来自苹果。导航设备公司TomTom提供了部分数据。该公司否认其地图数据存在问题,并表示对自己的地图质量很有信心。

  TomTom在一份声明中称:“我们向主要的手持设备厂商,包括RIM、HTC、三星、AOL(MapQuest Mobile)、苹果和谷歌提供地图及相关内容。当人们使用地图时,体验由两方面决定。首先是内容,即地图本身。这是TomTom向移动行业提供的,并给地图服务带来了最好的基础。其次,用户体验是由地图应用的功能决定,例如可视图像。这是由手机厂商和第三方软件提供商根据他们自己的目标和需要来开发的。”

  一款全新的应用出现问题并不令人惊讶,但这些错误明显表明了苹果地图的缺陷。苹果此前曾大力宣传新的地图应用,并称该应用能取代谷歌地图。但实际情况并非如此。(李丽)
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-20 22:29

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 10:57 编辑

刚刚下载安装iOS6。。。。那个地图烂的不行,特别是那个3D图,整个一个垃圾。。。。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-20 22:30

这可是俺的亲身体验
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-20 22:34

手机老大狠爱疯
爱疯偏要飞上天
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-20 22:40

手机老大狠爱疯
爱疯偏要飞上天
aimei 发表于 2012-9-20 22:34



   

你如果用过google的地图,你就知道苹果这个有多烂
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-20 22:42

3D图居然跟波浪一样。
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-20 22:53

你如果用过google的地图,你就知道苹果这个有多烂
cellphone 发表于 2012-9-20 22:40


同意

苹果不仅仅是电子产品,
也是时尚品。

拥有它不光是为了顶尖技术,也是心理的一种满足。

这个时候, 价格不在是考虑的主要。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 09:26

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 09:28 编辑
同意

苹果不仅仅是电子产品,
也是时尚品。

拥有它不光是为了顶尖技术,也是心理的一种满足。
...
aimei 发表于 2012-9-20 22:53


跟喜好没关系。俺实事求是。你用过 google 的map 你就知道苹果的有多差。。。你把苹果地图的3D变换一下角度,平坦的街道居然变成了高山低谷。烂到不能再烂了。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 09:31

而且你现在根本不知道是地图软件的问题,还是操作系统的匹配问题
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 09:36

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 10:20 编辑

而且你也不知道如何 roll back, or backout.

俺现在都没有办法安装旧版地图。it's gone !
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 09:39

所以,俺大声的疾呼:

如果你想买爱疯,请等明年的爱疯6!!!
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 09:44

还有,你如果想找中国二线城市,你找不到!

比如,你设置二线城市的时区,天气。。。根本没有!!!

丢人啊。中国大陆的苹果粉丝,当你的邻居问你苹果上的二线城市的当地天气,时区的时候,劝你别显摆你的苹果产品了。。。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 10:05

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 10:28 编辑

俺可以负责任的说,iOS6整合的这些时钟,地图有很大的缺陷。 不知道系统是如何 integrated with these built in 软件,这种有缺陷的系统怎么就 Release 了?这在乔布斯时代是没有发生过的。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 10:14

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 10:28 编辑
俺可以负责任的说,iOS6整合的这些时钟,地图有很大的缺陷。 不知道系统是如何 integrated with these built ...
cellphone 发表于 2012-9-21 10:05



   俺是搞整合的,以俺专业的角度看,系统整合过程当中从开发到质量检验,关关都有问题。这些终端客户都可以明显看到的问题,bugs 如何通过所有的检验关口的?只有一个解释,团队出了问题。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 10:39

已经有人将感受贴出来了。。。。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 10:40

Wrong turn: Apple's buggy iOS 6 maps lead to widespread complaints

By Nilay Patel on September 20, 2012 02:51 pm Email @reckless

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By Nilay Patel and Adi Robertson

Apple has a maps problem.

The major new feature of the company's new iOS 6 mobile operating system is a new mapping module developed by Apple itself — a replacement for the Google-supplied maps that have been standard on the iPhone since it debuted in 2007. It is a change borne not of user demand, but of corporate politics: Google's Android platform is the biggest competitive threat to the iPhone, so Apple is cutting ties with Google. iPhone owners might have loved Google Maps, but Apple has no love for Google.

"IT'S GOING TO BE MESSY FOR THEM."

Unfortunately, Apple's new maps are simply not as good as Google's. The release of iOS 6 yesterday was immediately followed by users complaining about the new maps, which lack a significant amount of detail and omit public transit directions. Access to high-quality maps is a critical feature for modern smartphones, and Apple's decision to swap out Google Maps is a rare example of the company openly placing its own interests above those of its customers. "There was no problem to solve," says Rene Ritchie, editor ofiMore. "They're going to get hammered by mom and pop who want to find a store. It's going to be messy for them."





The problems are particularly bad outside of the US. Map detail might be lacking in some American cities, but London, Beijing, and Tokyo are virtually blank, and several major landmarks are labeled inaccurately or wildly misplaced. Satellite views are on par with Google in the US; internationally, they may well be obscured by clouds. "It's national news" in the UK, says Verge senior editor Tom Warren. Politicians have seized the controversy to puff themselves up: Ireland Minister for Justice Alan Shatter issued a statement  saying he was concerned that a 35-acre garden and farm called Airfield in his district had been mislabeled with an airport icon. "Clearly the designation is not only wrong but is dangerously misleading," said Shatter. "I have arranged that Apple be informed of the error and requested that it be urgently corrected."

THE STATUE OF LIBERTY? GONE. THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE? OBLITERATED.

Even Apple's highly-touted 3D "flyover" feature is somewhat broken: it frequently displays comically distorted images that look like major landmarks and structures have been destroyed. The Statue of Liberty? Gone . The Brooklyn Bridge? Obliterated . Twitter users quickly started collected examples using the hashtag #ios6apocalypse , and a Tumblr called The Amazing iOS 6 Maps  quickly filled up with examples of bad data. Apple's 3D maps make for "a great commercial," says Ritchie. "But they're nowhere near as useful as Google's Street View."

To be fair, Apple's new maps are starting at a disadvantage with users: Google maps are the industry standard, and users are familiar with their quirks and limitations after years of use. Head-to-head, both Apple and Google's systems have similar issues: searching for a Lexington Avenue location while in Manhattan brings up a Brooklyn street in Apple's Maps, while Google first found a result in New Jersey. Searching for a specific restaurant or shop will usually work in either case — especially if a city name is also entered — and both maps do well when searching general terms like "Italian restaurant" in a well-populated area. When a search goes wrong, it's often equally wrong on both, even if the results are different. But Apple isn't doing itself any favors, either: a search for "Apple Cube" fails to find Apple's iconic Fifth Avenue store in New York.


"IT TAKES A LONG TIME AND EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS RIGHT."

Why all the bad data and broken features? Building maps is extremely difficult — there are only a handful of mapping data providers in the world, and they've all been gathering information for years. Sources tellThe Verge that Apple began work on the iOS 6 maps system nearly five years ago — not coincidentally when Google launched Android — and the company has had to buy smaller mapping companies and piece together maps from several vendors to even get this far. That's why the US maps are better than the international ones: Apple's using TomTom data in the US, but other services abroad. It's a patchwork, and the rough edges are clear compared to Google's offering. The search giant has been refining its maps for years now: not only has it been running its quirky StreetView cars all over the world, it's been collecting location data from millions of iPhone and Android users to gain even more precision. Apple's just getting started.

"It takes a long time and effort to figure out how to do this right," Google maps VP Brandon McClendon told The New York Times yesterday. "Experience is important." Other companies of Apple's size aren't even trying: Amazon simply signed a deal to use Nokia maps on its Kindle Fire devices.



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Apple's piecemeal approach to mapping is evident when simply browsing the map: instead of including locations directly on the map like Google, it uses an overlay of data from Yelp to show restaurants, gas stations, or bus stops. This is often beneficial: you can tap them directly to see Yelp ratings or head to a detailed address page. But Yelp is crowdsourced, and the results can seem random. In New York or DC, there's not a dramatic difference between Google's annotations and Apple's icons, but in many rural areas Apple seems to only place a handful of icons even when more are discoverable by searching, undermining its promise of a better browsing experience. And Yelp, popular mostly in the US, doesn't seem to have been replaced by similar tools in other countries.

THE LOSS OF MASS TRANSIT DIRECTIONS IS A MAJOR BLOW

And Apple simply didn't have time to match other Google features: the loss of mass transit directions is a major blow. Google Maps Senior Product Manager Manik Gupta told us that Transit "became an integral part [of Maps] very soon after it launched. It’s a very typical use case. Especially if you’re a city-dweller, living in Europe or Asia, where you have a very good Metro system... look at Tokyo. The whole city runs on transit." Selecting the familiar bus icon in iOS 6 when searching for directions now brings up a list of local transit apps that are either installed on the phone or available on the App Store. If the app is installed, Apple can feed it information, ideally minimizing the extra work. But while transit apps have come a long way over the past few years, they still can't replicate the fluid integration of bus, train, commuter rail, and foot traffic that Google offers at its best. And transit apps are often local to individual cities, meaning you may have to install multiple tools with multiple interfaces if you travel.

Apple's new maps do have some benefits — especially in larger American cities, where Apple's software can claim rough parity with Google's app. Apple maps don't have annoying features like sponsored listings and ads, and the company now offers free turn-by-turn navigation, a feature Google has long offered on Android phones. But those are benefits that only shine in the light of a great core maps experience, and most users appear to be willing to accept a few ads in return for solid, reliable data.

It is a precarious position for Apple, which is on the verge of an all-out media blitz when the iPhone 5 goes on sale tomorrow. Unlike years past, iOS 6 has few major features besides the swapped-in new maps — there's no headline-grabbing feature like Siri or multitasking or AirPlay. "Maps is a non-trivial effort," says iMore's Ritchie. "It took a lot of time that they could have used for user-facing features."

"IOS 6 IS MOSTLY ABOUT APPLE — THEY WANTED TO GET GOOGLE OFF THEIR PHONE."

That means Apple won't have much else to lean on as it begins to market the new iPhone. "Maps is definitely the highlight feature of iOS 6," says Ross Rubin, principal analyst at Reticle Research. "We can expect the new maps to be a signature feature of Apple's new iPhone ads." It's also an interesting opportunity for Google: the company was widely expected to release its own maps app for iOS to coincide with the iPhone 5, but as of yet it has said and done nothing except quietly remind people that Google maps are still available and being updated on Android.


Ultimately Apple created this problem for itself. Ritchie is blunt in noting criticism that Apple's new iPhone 5 and OS feel like iterative updates to previous products. "iOS 6 ismostly about Apple  — they wanted to get Google off their phone," he says. That's been accomplished: Google Maps and YouTube, beloved by users, are both gone from the default iPhone homescreen. The real question is whether these victories for Apple are victories for its customers.



作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 11:09

ios 6 iphone still doesn't support flash player......
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 13:59

手机老大狠爱疯
爱疯偏要飞上天
aimei 发表于 2012-9-20 22:34



作者: farshine    时间: 2012-9-21 14:08

而且你也不知道如何 roll back, or backout.

俺现在都没有办法安装旧版地图。it's gone !
cellphone 发表于 2012-9-21 09:36

same feeling!旧的google map 无法恢复了!
作者: tfmegatron    时间: 2012-9-21 14:15

哈哈,谁让你们急吼吼的升级到ios 6,俺就还是用ios 5.1,羡慕S你们,厚厚!
作者: seu    时间: 2012-9-21 14:22

昨天刚下载的ios6, 晚上就死机了,史无前例啊!
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 14:28

这是最差的一次 Release。俺相信有更多的问题会被发现。
作者: farshine    时间: 2012-9-21 14:57

哈哈,谁让你们急吼吼的升级到ios 6,俺就还是用ios 5.1,羡慕S你们,厚厚!
tfmegatron 发表于 2012-9-21 14:15



作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:01

Upgrading...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:03

Installing...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:03

Re-booting...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:03

Dead...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:04

Dead...
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:03


Just kidding...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:04

Loading...
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-21 15:05

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CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:04


作者: tfmegatron    时间: 2012-9-21 15:06

Loading...
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:04


explode...
作者: farshine    时间: 2012-9-21 15:17

Loading...
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:04



    then regretting....
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:22

IOS6 online...
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:25

Map is not bad.
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:28

How to use Passbook?
作者: tfmegatron    时间: 2012-9-21 15:30

Map is not bad.
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:25


awesome,if there is no problem, i will upgrade later...
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 15:47

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 15:49 编辑
Map is not bad.
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:25



1) Try to use 3D Map and change the angle a little bit and see. These defects exist and are posted on the website and everywhere.

2) Try to set clock and Weather for your home town in China (not big city, i.e Beijing etc), just some capital cities of provinces. There is no any data for small town at all. A shit...

You will see those problems
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:48

1) Try to use 3D Map and change the angle a little bit and see. These defects exist and are po ...
cellphone 发表于 2012-9-21 15:47


Not in my area. sorry!
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:49

explode...
tfmegatron 发表于 2012-9-21 15:06



作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:49

then regretting....
farshine 发表于 2012-9-21 15:17



作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 15:51

Not in my area. sorry!
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:48



    Well... It's the truth that Apple Map has a big issue ............have you try 2) <-- no data at all.
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-21 15:53

How to use Passbook?
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:28


I have not figured it out yet
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 15:53

Well... It's the truth that Apple Map has a big issue ............have you try 2)
cellphone 发表于 2012-9-21 15:51


iPhone地域设置是不同的,你改成中文,就不同了。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 16:01

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 17:00 编辑
iPhone地域设置是不同的,你改成中文,就不同了。
CoolMax 发表于 2012-9-21 15:53



    俺已经不敢更新俺的iphone 了。。。昨晚俺们家千金更新了 ipad 。。。现在完了,搞不回来了。。。

(Google Map 在iPhone 4S 上没这些问题。俺甚至可以看国内的地图)
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 16:03


作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 16:13     标题: Great Failure !!!

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 16:15 编辑

http://youtu.be/rF3xBfA-uAM
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 16:38

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 16:39 编辑

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rF3xBfA-uAM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-21 16:51

本帖最后由 aimei 于 2012-9-21 17:04 编辑

.............................
作者: aimei    时间: 2012-9-21 16:52


作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 16:53

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-21 16:55 编辑
aimei 发表于 2012-9-21 16:51



    这个版本的YYB不支持贴新版本youtube:

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(大家凑和看46#吧)
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 17:41

就像46#录像里说的,这次的问题是以前苹果所没有的,是苹果自找的。。。。乔布斯如果活着不会让这样大的问题出来的。。。

谁知道是不是压垮苹果的稻草??
作者: 西门吹雪    时间: 2012-9-21 17:44


作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 20:43

http://www.c114.net/news/51/a718692.html
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-21 20:44

我查了钓鱼岛,没有标注。

据说,中文版标注钓鱼岛,日文版标注尖阁岛。
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-21 21:27

Cool。。。。
作者: CoolMax    时间: 2012-9-22 04:06

iPhone5 is pretty good.
作者: 阿朱妹妹    时间: 2012-9-22 11:19

steve在的时候也出现过天线的问题吧
地图这个不是太大的问题,数据方面的,不过修起来比较费时间
你好像喜欢做空,呵呵

回复 51# cellphone
作者: cellphone    时间: 2012-9-22 20:24

本帖最后由 cellphone 于 2012-9-22 20:29 编辑
steve在的时候也出现过天线的问题吧
地图这个不是太大的问题,数据方面的,不过修起来比较费时间
你好像喜 ...
阿朱妹妹 发表于 2012-9-22 11:19


    不是,天线那个是硬件匹配问题。这个不仅仅是数据了,到底是什么问题?绝不是象天线那样容易解决。

再说,三百多的时候俺没说什么,那时候俺成了果粉。现在,俺觉得过分了。成泡泡了。

不就是个玩具吗,论功能的话,很多手机不逊爱疯。你把爱疯当偶像,就太过分了。至于吗?居然成为0.5%GDP。没泡沫?呵呵。。。

再说,目前地图时钟的明显的缺陷居然能够漏过这么多的检验,明显是有很多管理方面问题的。这个不能忽略吧?700 多元的公司应该不能有什么借口的。




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